Posts by life is to short

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Have any of you had experiences with a spouse who puts loyalty to thier parents and the organisation over you?

by captain in

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i'm going through this at the moment and very disillusioned - especially when i find that people who i thought were my good friends (read: elders) are actually siding with my spouse..

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My husband put the religion over our marriage for about 21 years. He was an elder when I married him. I was 24 and he was 41. He would always tell me if I did not like it I should never have married an elder. I was so young and stupid I just took it. It really hurt. He would have me sit in the car for hours and hours because we were both pioneering and lived far away from the hall and we could not afford to have me drive home and come back to pick him up plus he would always tell me it would be just a minute. If we had plans and someone called and wanted him he would drop me like a hot rock and go run to them. I was always second or third or fourth on the list. I was never and mean never first. I remember one time I burned my hand on the stove really bad, he was on the phone with some elder thing. I came and said I think I really hurt myself he response was I am doing elder stuff.

Oh I could go on and on. Finally after about 21years of marriage he said to me once again you should never have married an elder. I just looked at him and said I am sorry I thought I had married a husband. He just got white and never said it again to me.

This religion has really come between us. Now I look at my husband and wonder so many time what I saw in him. It is so sad.

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Elder who conducted second school cannot read

by life is to short in

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i tied in to the meeting tuesday night and i was blown away that the elder who they had conduct the second school is one who cannot read well at all.

not that i have any room to talk as i cannot spell to save my life, but i know that and i would never put myself in a place to counsel ones about bible reading and such.

in fact i have not applied for jobs and such because i know i have a handicap with my spelling.. i was so blown away that they use this elder like they do.

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Thanks Blondie and man in black.

I totally agree that this elder is not stupid in the least. It is just that he cannot read. I truly feel sorry for him. I cannot spell and I know how much of a struggle it is. Also people really do look down on you. I have been told how stupid are you not being able to spell. I am not faulting his not being able to read. What I am saying is it is unfair and stupid to use someone who cannot do the job. Just as I cannot work at some jobs because of my spelling so he should realize he cannot be fair to the ones who have parts on the school.

To me it is just another example of the craziness of this religion.

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How many of the woman 'sisters' had to sit in the back seat while in FS

by life is to short in

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i was wondering how many of the sisters on this board had to sit in the back seat while in service.

when i was single i almost always used my car and unlike most of the sister who turned over their cars to the brothers to drive and would then take the back seat in their own car i never did.

so i did not have a problem with this being single.

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The sisters who let the brothers drive wanted it that way. They would ask for the brother to drive because they did not feel well, etc. Then is just became the way it was.

As far as sitting in the back, sometimes I truly did not mind. I minded when I was told I had too. That is what brothered me. It was my car and if I wanted to sit with my husband then I should not be told to sit in the back. I agree with Blondie that it happens with none JW's also, but it was just they way it was done that got to me.

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Do you Know of any JW Pedophiles who Currently Go Out in Service ?

by flipper in

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my wife suggested this thread and i agree it's a good idea to put this out here to find out.

just wanted to give her credit for the idea.. most of the public have no idea that some of the jehovah's witnesses people calling at their door are a previously convicted sex offender or pedophile who may have served hard time in prison for their crime.

it would be interesting to have an informal survey here and get an idea of the sheer numbers of these child molesters who are out on the loose.. in your opinion - how would the public react if they knew that child molesters were regularly calling on their doors ?

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Stillin

I know what you are talking about 16 year old girls showing off. But look at where some of them come from. There was one who was 14 and had just gotten really big fast. She would bounce when she walked in the hall on purpose. I saw her do it with my own eyes. Then one day her family sat behind us. And her PIG of a father was bragging about his girls tits to another man. I was so mad. I thought now it makes sense. He said does she not have great ones.

I am sorry but these 16 year old children who do this have learned it from being molested as kids. Child rape affects the child when they get older and many of them act out on it as teenagers. Some do not but many do.

I am sorry but I just cannot believe it is a lynch-mod mentality. Child rape is child RAPE. There is no way around it. The 16 year old who are flaunt what they have are the children who where raped at the age of five. You are just seeing the affects of it.

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How many of the woman 'sisters' had to sit in the back seat while in FS

by life is to short in

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i was wondering how many of the sisters on this board had to sit in the back seat while in service.

when i was single i almost always used my car and unlike most of the sister who turned over their cars to the brothers to drive and would then take the back seat in their own car i never did.

so i did not have a problem with this being single.

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I was wondering how many of the sisters on this board had to sit in the back seat while in service. When I was single I almost always used my car and unlike most of the sister who turned over their cars to the brothers to drive and would then take the back seat in THEIR OWN CAR I never did. So I did not have a problem with this being single.

Once I was married it was a different story. I have been in three main halls the one in Brooklyn while I was at Bethel does not really count because we did not use our car in service.

At first I was really hurt. I paid for the car and bought the gas and the men just went to the front and said you woman can sit in the back and talk. I was so Pissed but my husband and everyone just went along with it. After awhile I just accepted it, I told my husband that it brothered me but so what.

The hall we are in now there is an attorney who's wife gives the front seat to 18 and 19 year old boys even. I just find it wrong. OK if it is an older man like this one brother who is in his 80's and has a really bad back yes because the front seat is easy for him to get in and out of. But come one men my age who happen to be elders, etc. It just pisses me off.

So what about you other sisters, what did you do. Go to the back or was it even a problem in the halls you were in. It seems that for it to be like that in three halls for me it is more than just a fluke that it happened to me so much.

Thanks for you thoughts.

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Elder who conducted second school cannot read

by life is to short in

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i tied in to the meeting tuesday night and i was blown away that the elder who they had conduct the second school is one who cannot read well at all.

not that i have any room to talk as i cannot spell to save my life, but i know that and i would never put myself in a place to counsel ones about bible reading and such.

in fact i have not applied for jobs and such because i know i have a handicap with my spelling.. i was so blown away that they use this elder like they do.

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I tied in to the meeting Tuesday night and I was blown away that the elder who they had conduct the second school is one who cannot read well at all. Not that I have any room to talk as I cannot spell to save my life, but I know that and I would never put myself in a place to counsel ones about Bible reading and such. In fact I have not applied for jobs and such because I know I have a handicap with my spelling.

I was so blown away that they use this elder like they do. He is in is mid 40's and OH MY WORD when he reads it is painful to listen to. Last year at the Memorial he read the special letter for the FDS "our mother." It was so horrible to sit through. Now this brother is not stupid by any means it is just lack of schooling he was raised a JW and his parents put no importance on school. He is a contractor and builds really nice homes but he just cannot read.

I feel it is unfair to the ones giving a talk to be graded by someone who cannot read.

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Do you Know of any JW Pedophiles who Currently Go Out in Service ?

by flipper in

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my wife suggested this thread and i agree it's a good idea to put this out here to find out.

just wanted to give her credit for the idea.. most of the public have no idea that some of the jehovah's witnesses people calling at their door are a previously convicted sex offender or pedophile who may have served hard time in prison for their crime.

it would be interesting to have an informal survey here and get an idea of the sheer numbers of these child molesters who are out on the loose.. in your opinion - how would the public react if they knew that child molesters were regularly calling on their doors ?

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Another point is they do not stop! I just had one of my jobs the wife just died six weeks ago. He totally went after me the last time I was there. Grabbing my breast and trying to kiss me on the lips. Now it all makes sense why his oldest daughter is so screwed up. The younger one is a doctor but the oldest one has had a hard life. It makes sense now. This guy is 80 years old and I am younger then his two girls. SICK. I am sure he only did it to one daughter. They know how to pick their victims.

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Do you Know of any JW Pedophiles who Currently Go Out in Service ?

by flipper in

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friends

my wife suggested this thread and i agree it's a good idea to put this out here to find out.

just wanted to give her credit for the idea.. most of the public have no idea that some of the jehovah's witnesses people calling at their door are a previously convicted sex offender or pedophile who may have served hard time in prison for their crime.

it would be interesting to have an informal survey here and get an idea of the sheer numbers of these child molesters who are out on the loose.. in your opinion - how would the public react if they knew that child molesters were regularly calling on their doors ?

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I just have to commit stillin. The CO told me about a case of a 16 year old sister who accused an elder of doing something to her and the CO was trying to get me off the topic of the child rapists in our hall by telling me how this poor elder now was black listed and could not be used anymore. To the CO it was all so sad for the elder.

In my hall I am not talking about a 16 years old. One of the child molester raped a 7 year old child and prosecuted other girls anther raped an eight year old child and one raped his own six year old daughter plus a 7 year old. For two of the child molesters it is on the internet.

Child molesters love the chase, they love to hunt their next victims. They can take years to do this. That is part of the fun for them. I have no problem with them being in the "truth" but just as Flipper say stay the hell away from children. Just as with an alcoholic or a chain smoker the elders would never allow they to give a part or go out in service with a bottle of booze or a pack of cigrettes in their front pocket but a child rapists if he can find woman to marry him can walk around holding children and give parts take their kids out in service and nothing is done because it is their own children. That is how one of the pedophiles in my hall does it.

Another befriends single mom's, he took years studying with the big brother before he turned to taking care of the little sister. Then it was myself that the elders accused of being perverted. They said I was in the wrong for saying anything about this child molester holding the little girl. The elders felt like you do that this man is fine he did his time plus elder felt very strongly that this pedophile did not even rape the girl. But this man served eight years in prison for his crime. All I ask if for him to stay away from children. Be in the "truth" love the "truth" give talks do everything. Just stay the hell away from babies.

I am sorry if I come across as upset but this affects the children all of their lives. It is not the child rapist who is affected but the babies they rape that are affected FOR LIFE.

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A conversation With A Jehovah's Witness.

by whereami in

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thought this was pretty funny and right to the point.. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-fvqzcziqe&playnext_from=tl&videos=tkjj4l54s4a&feature=grec.

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That was funny but sad at the same time. Sad because I saw my husband in the JW. I have been to many doors with my husband and I have seen the householder do that to him and yet still he would hold fast to what he believed and I was so brain dead that I went along with my husband. I so clearly remember thinking the householder is making good sense and yet I choose to believe my husband and the JW's because it was easy to do that and not buck the system. I wish I could shake that stupid person I was.

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Do not circulate recordings or transcripts of talks at the meetings last night.

by life is to short in

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ok i listening in for the meetings and will probably go to the special talk sunday, they are having it this week because of the special assembly day last weekend.. i am doing this for a very good reason but it is driving me crazy listening to this stuff.

i need to vent of else i feel i will go crazy.

it is so stupid.. ok so last night was the question box and it was about recording the public talks.

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Thanks poor places

I was thinking I was making up what I was hearing last night it was to incredible to believe that people could say such stupid stuff but this is what they were saying. And as far as not recording my husband and I were at Bethel for awhile and Brother Ciro Aulcino the UN brother who had the library card. Well we were there when all the child abuse articles came out. Brother Aulicno seemed so kind to victims of abuse in his morning worship parts that when I found out how many pedophiles were in my hall and how the elders were treating me as compared to them I actually called Brother Aulcino to ask him what to do. He first word to me were are you looking for recordings of my talks. This was just three years ago. So there you have it he was pushing his talks. Amazing